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Re:Too many 59's? 2 years, 9 months ago #10602

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I know there is a site somewhere which displays program ratings for all shows. It would take some research but I think you could pick a few super low tournaments and see what their ratings were...

I'd bet the Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson playing have a bigger bearing on viewership than low numbers...
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Re:Too many 59's? 2 years, 9 months ago #10603

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That's kind of the point. If the big names are not playing, then low scores are an easy, if unsatisfying, substitute. It seems most of the tournaments with insanely low scores are the ones without the big names to draw crowds and viewers.

A quick look at the board has only 16 of the top 50 FedEx points leaders playing. Furyk was the biggest name there. Daly is good for a few points if he makes the weekend, at least the guys giving out the sponsor exemptions seem to think so.
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Re:Too many 59's? 2 years, 9 months ago #10604

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Come to think of it, this week is a perfect example. Firestone vs. Turning Stone. All the big names are at the par 70 Firestone, every one else is at the par 72 Turning Stone. I'll give you an over under wager. 25 Karma points for each course. The number is 63. No one shoots a 63 or lower at Firestone, at least one 63 or lower is shot this week at Turning Stone.
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Re:Too many 59's? 2 years, 9 months ago #10605

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I have played all three of the public courses at The Greenbrier multiple times. Until the renovation, Old White was always considered the easiest course. I have not played it since it has been re-done.
Here are some points to consider. This was a premier event sponsored by The Greenbrier to showcase the resort which is under new ownership. Second, the greens were soft. Third, the course is at an elevation of about 3200'.
I am with you Lgsaltz....next weekend with all the top guns the scores will be lower, but Firestone is a narrow tree lined course. Old White is not that narrow and the trees are not a factor.
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Re:Too many 59's? 2 years, 9 months ago #10612

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I have been thinking about this for a couple of days now, and no I did not hurt myself doing that. Here goes. My take on the 59s is this. Golf is at least 80-90% mental with the remaining 10-20% being about evenly split between talent and time spent practicing. It is not a big surprise to me that these guys are going low like they are. You are seeing the best group of golfers the world has ever seen finally realize that they can do this to any golf course. Combine that with the absence of stress caused by Tiger Woods not looming over their rounds this year, as in 'it doesn't matter how well I play he is going to beat me" they are able to just focus on their game and not on trying not to lose. Choking is the number one reason for a bad score at any level I believe, you see it all the time. If a guy is not sick, injured or otherwise impaired and doesn't choke on it then any one of about 50 of these guys are able to go really low at any time on any layout. They are just beginning to realize they can do it - that's all.
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Re:Too many 59's? 2 years, 9 months ago #10615

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My take is to restrict the club/ball makers and go back a few generations of technology.

I found a Golf Channel website talking about driving distance. In 1980 the longest driver on tour (Dan Poul) hit the ball 274.3 yards. In 2003 at the PGA peak the longest driver (Hank Kuehne) was hitting 321.4 yards (a difference of 47.1 yards!) Jim Furyk was ranked 131 in 2003 and still hitting the ball 281.3 which was better then Dan Poul in 1980 . In 2009 the longest hitter (Bubba Watson) was driving the ball 311.1 yards (a difference of 36.8 yard from 1980).

The tough part about this is these clubs/balls allow players like Norman and Tom Watson to be able to compete on the PGA tour into their late 50's/60's, but it also allows for lower scores. Personally Im torn because watching Watson vs Cink in 2009 at The Open was amazing. However knowing that its in large part because of technology makes me wonder if the game is better because of it.

www.thegolfchannel.com/golf-forum/pga-to...C9-B12D-FD22A1219072
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